It's never been a problem. I mean, I have pastors that ask about it and most of them are really supportive. They understand it's just another sport, not a bloodbath like some people try to paint it as.
How do you see the fight with Kevin going? What's your strategy?
It'll be interesting to see what Kevin's going to try to do with me. I don't think he wants to roll with me too much. It's awkward for both of us because I cornered for him a couple of times ago when he fought Mirko. We had the chance to roll and train a little bit together.
Did you see anything there when you were training together that you could exploit?
I think people take his punching ability for granted and you can see that in the Mirko fight. He's got quick hands. He'll catch you if you're not ready. Most people he surprises with his strength and his quickness, like the big slam he had in his last fight. I think that's going to be to my advantage because I train with wrestlers. That's what I do.
Yes and no. Yes, I was happy that I could get him to the mat right away but, no, I wasn't happy that I couldn't get better position. I was surprised by his ground game. I had a hard time passing his guard. Usually, I don't.
Are you bitter that you weren't in the original 16 for the Grand Prix but now you are on as an alternate?
I like to spend a lot of time with my kids and my family. I travel a lot with my ministry so when I'm home, I like to spend time with them. Both of my boys are playing football now and wrestling right after that so I try to coach as much as I can. I do a lot of pottery, ceramics and draw. I was an art teacher for 10 years before I became a minister.